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The Awkward + Unavoidable Conversation You Need to Have with Your Parents (and Siblings)

Money Matters: The Past vs. the Present

There’s no doubt about it. At some point in our relationship with our parents, things change. Hopefully, if we get enough time with our parents, we get to see them start to age. To slow down. At first it is almost unimaginable to see your strong, vital father get frail, or your feisty mother become so thin and slow. We start to see them wear thicker glasses, take more naps, and acknowledge the talk about their bowel habits and aching knees as well as the other ailments that they and those around them are experiencing.

But it also means that our relationship with caring for them and money changes too. We now can become our parents’ carers more than their children.

Do you know your parents’ retirement plan? Do you know their wishes? Have they ever broached where they would like to live when they are older? These are all topics that can be extremely scary and fraught with emotion for those going through it.

 

Opens to Karen on the phone to her mum, explaining how the internet connection could be reset on her iPad.

Karen: Yep, Mum, I think you have it now. Glad I could be IT support again.

Gloria: Thanks, love. I can’t stand that damn thing.

Karen: I know, Ma. But you love the photos of the kids I send on it.

Gloria: That’s true. I always take it to the club with me to show the others.

Karen: Nice. How’s your friend Beryl doing? I know she was worried about her daughter last time we spoke.

Gloria: Oh yes, she is having awful trouble with that horrible son-in-law she has. He’s trying to make her sell the house so they can buy one big enough to fit them all and have Beryl in the small in-law accommodation out back.

Karen: Oh, that’s tough. Although it might be nice for Beryl to know her daughter is right there. Even if her husband is not Beryl’s favourite.

Gloria: Oh yes, I suppose so. She’s very upset about it all. You know how emotional she is.

Karen: Well, it must be a weird time of life, where you let go of your independence to an extent.

Gloria: Yes, there’s a lot of that going on with your father and me.

Karen: What’s your plan, Mum? What do you and Dad want to do?

Gloria: Oh, I don’t know. Moving seems like a lot of work. We will probably just die here.

Karen: Really? Wouldn’t you and Dad like to go to one of those nice retirement villages? They have separate homes still, but you get assistance, and meals and cleaning help. To be honest, it would be ideal for you. There’s a lot of work for you both to keep the house up.

Gloria: Yes, it is a lot of work. Your father fell off the back step last week, banged up his knee.

Karen: I’m worried that will just get worse. I think it’s worth looking into those places, Mum. At least see what they cost and get some advice. You own the house outright. You should have more than enough. I will start making some calls for you.

Gloria: Your father and I don’t want to use the money from the house on us. We want to give it to you and your brothers.

Karen: Well, you deserve a great retirement too. Let’s talk about this. I’ll cook lunch next Sunday, and Russ will drive down and pick you both up. Nate needs practice driving anyway.

Gloria: Lunch sounds lovely. I will bring a dessert. Tell Nate that Nana said he better be safe.

Karen: I’m sure he will be on his best behaviour, Mum. Love you.

Gloria: Love you too.

 

Unlearning Money Narratives

Baby boomers grew up in a time after World War II. They were taught how to be frugal, how to make money spin out and live within their means. But the world has changed so much that sometimes it’s hard to get your parents seeing eye-to-eye with you when it comes to money today. But having money conversations with your parents is vital—especially as they age and you become an adult—because, the earlier you can have the conversation, the more strategic you can be in making financial decisions that benefit everyone. And this is probably the time when you will need to seek specialist advice.

 

Scene opens on Jane at the mall with her parents Bob and Cath.

Bob: By god, that kid over there is screaming like a banshee. I’d give that one a good smack on the backside.

Jane: Yeah, you aren’t supposed to smack kids anymore, Dad. It scars them.

Bob: Didn’t scar you any. Or are you going to tell me you are scarred now?

Jane: No, Dad, I am pretty good. It was different times than nowadays. Everyone got a smack back then.

Cath: Yes, well, I would always get told that to spare the rod would spoil the child by my father.

Bob: Now, let’s find these new parkas for the girls so I can get out of here. What is on sale?

Jane: I want to get them at the outdoor store, Dad. It’s for their camp.

Bob: They are twice the price there. Don’t be ridiculous.

Jane: Well, it’s how I choose to spend my money, Dad. Lucky I earn it.

Bob: Yes, well, I am only looking out for you, Janey. You know we want you to have money in the bank.

Jane: Yes, Dad, I know. But how about you? What’s your money situation looking like? I’ve never really asked you before, but my friend Ben, who is a financial planner, was talking about how it’s good to know what your parents’ plans are.

Bob: Did he? Hmmm. Well, I’m not up to telling some stranger about our personal business.

Jane: Well, you would be talking with me first. I would love to know what you are thinking and what you and Mum want.

Cath: That could be nice.

 


Taking a Trip Down Memory Lane

Jane is faced with the attitude of her parents that they don’t “air their dirty laundry” with strangers. But she is smart enough to know that asking her dad to at least start the conversation about money and the future with her was a first step. Nobody can make big decision or life choices in a single conversation. Starting the conversation with your parents at various times without making a big deal of it, and agreeing to a future discussion, is a great start. It doesn’t matter where you begin—it’s talking about things that is the start of it all.

Opening up about money with our parents can feel challenging, awkward, and uncomfortable, and that is why many people have never had a conversation about money with their parents.

Maybe you’re embarrassed to talk about it because you don’t think you’re good with money and you’re afraid of their judgements. Maybe you grew up in a house where money was never discussed and so you don’t feel like you can talk about it with your parents. Or perhaps you remember your parents fighting about money, so it’s a topic you want to avoid because of the conflict that can arise.

Choosing a Financial Lane of Your Own

Jasper grew up watching his father work himself to death. And Jasper, when he was young, decided that he didn’t want to be like his father. So he went too far the other way, to be as little like his dad as possible. He went from one job to the next with no passion or interest and not really caring what he did day to day. He would go out drinking with friends without a plan or any idea of what he was doing it for. He got to his forties and realised he didn’t have anything to his name, was living with his mum, and his friends thought he was hopeless.

Jasper had to unlearn the subliminal belief he had developed, which was that hard work equated to an unhappy life. Although he didn’t want to be a workaholic like his father, he still needed to find his passion and what he really wanted in life.

You don’t have to work hard; you can work smart. You don’t have to be like your father to earn money; you can find other avenues. As I’ve said, it’s not about what you don’t know about money, it’s what you do know—how you grew up, how your beliefs shaped you, all the things in your past around money that have become bad habits. Most people need to stop and acknowledge what these are before they can actually move forward, change things, and build new goals and better habits.

Talking with Your Parents about Inheritance

A lot of people who receive an inheritance have never even had a conversation with their parents about money, let alone talk about what they intend their inheritance to be used for. When you think about it, this is really sad, because that money has been hard-earned, and parents may have had a wish for their legacy which they possibly never spoke about. That’s why I want you to get talking about money and inheritance with your parents before it’s too late.

While nobody likes to think about dying or of their loved ones passing away, it is really important to be prepared for the future and to know what’s coming. It doesn’t feel good to talk about anyone in the family dying, and it can bring up a lot of raw emotions. We need to get real and start having these conversations because avoiding them isn’t going to do anyone any favours, especially when we’re trying to plan ahead for the future.

If you know or think you’ll be receiving an inheritance, you should definitely have a conversation with your parents about what they intend this money to be used for. I really encourage you to discuss with your parents your thoughts on how you might invest the money and what your future plans are. You want to make sure you’re honouring your parents’ wishes while using the money wisely. We should never assume we know what others want, and that goes for both sides. This is why it needs to be an open conversation.

 

This is an opportunity that shouldn’t be wasted. It’s a good idea to figure out how much you might inherit by talking openly about it with your parents. If they don’t want to talk about it, ask them why. Maybe you will learn more about them in this process.

You: I know we’ve never talked about this before, but I was wondering about your legacy, and what you are planning on regarding inheritance.

Your parent: I’m glad you brought this up. I’ve been meaning to talk to you about it. There’s a bit of money I’ve put aside for you and your siblings. I want to make sure it is split up evenly, so you all get a fair share. There’s a decent amount of money there that you can use toward a house deposit or a mortgage.

You: That’s so good to hear. Thank you. But what if I wanted to spend it on something else, like some other investments?

Your parent: Well, I hadn’t thought of that. What do you have in mind?

You: I have been thinking about starting a stock market portfolio. I’ve been doing a lot of research and I just need some money to kickstart it. Would you be okay if I used some of this money toward that?

Your parent: Well, as long as it’s not going to go down the drain. It sounds a bit risky. I never touched the stock market.

You: I’ve been doing a lot of research and I would speak to a financial planner to do it properly. There is some risk involved, but it can have even better returns than real estate.

Your Parent: Well, how about I give you $10,000 of the money now so you can start this, and if it works then you can figure out for yourself what to do with the rest of the money. I just want to make sure that you don’t waste it and that you’ll have a place to live, so don’t rule out buying a house one day, okay?

You: Okay, thanks for your help and support. This is a huge helping hand for me! I’ll make sure to use the money wisely.

 

Intergenerational Money Matters

It’s difficult to speak openly about money, but it’s especially challenging to talk about it across generations. Talking about money has been taboo with older generations for a reason. But those reasons don’t hold much weight nowadays.

 

It can also be an uncomfortable conversation with our parents because the conversation about mortality comes up. If we involve siblings, hidden conflicts can arise, and emotions can get the better of us too.

Karen: I’ve asked Bruce and Ray over for lunch too, Mum. If we are going to talk about money and plans, they may as well be involved.

Gloria: Oh, I would rather talk to you first. It always upsets your brothers thinking of anything happening to Dad or me.

Karen: Well, you are their parents too, so they need be involved. I am sure they will handle it. They are grown men.

Gloria: Your father is going to hate this. I don’t know how well it will go.

Karen: Well, I think it will be good for our family. Bring us together. Get the boys back involved again, Mum. I know they don’t call much.

Gloria: Well, they are always busy at work. We understand that. But, yes, I guess it would be good to see them and talk about it.

 

This is an extract of Chapter 4 from Vanessa’s new book. You can order it here 

https://vanessastoykov.com.au/books/the-five-conversations-about-money-that-will-radically-change-your-life/

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Financial Freedom

Why money stress is a big worry

It’s been a fantastic break and I’m happy to be in the saddle and kicking off the year. While January is not a break from the demands of everyday life, it is a much needed reset for us all. It was lovely to see less traffic, less busy and the joys of summer living.

There has been a lot of planning going on here at EMG HQ, and when you have someone like Lou Johnson  running the company, the momentum doubles. Kicking off with the launch of our new financial wellbeing program for financial services companies and employers, we will have significant announcements in the coming months as our vision of inspiring millions of people that they can improve their financial wellbeing comes to life.

It seems our work has never been more needed. Cost of living pressures continue to bite, and I know collective anxiety is rising on how we are going to manage. More than 3 million Australians have cited they are in financial stress* and that number is only growing.

Which is where I come in.

More than ever it is time to come together and empower people to understand what financial wellness is, and how they can progress on their own journey.

I know firsthand the pressures of raising a family (we have three kids), running a business, (done that for 24 years) and maintaining a relationship (been together 19 years). I have also had my fair share of financial challenges and understand the mental strain and despair that can bring. I understand all too well the stress money can bring, and believe wholeheartedly that anyone can improve their financial position by learning valuable money concepts and skills.

These skills all start with important conversations about money. Whether that be with yourself to really think about where you are in life, to vital conversations with your family, work and friends. There is no shame in having money pressures. What we need is open dialogue on money and access to the tools and knowledge to improve financial wellbeing.

This year we will be working with leading super funds, employers and organisations who are committed to the financial wellbeing of their people. We are creating a group of well respected leaders from the finance industry to help solve the problems we face. Named the Nationbuilders Collective, we will be collaborating on leading edge content to spark financial empowerment across a number of categories, including providing access to content for financial advisers.

There are a variety of ways we roll our programs out, and you can read more about our updated services here.  Whether it is coming into the workplace, or providing customised content for particular industries, we believe our methodology and approach will provide the spark for people to start on the path to financial empowerment.

More than ever it is time to come together and empower people to understand what financial wellness is, and how they can progress on their own journey. I look forward to meeting many of you out in the field this year, and will be sharing many of those important conversations on my social channels, so follow along and see what others are doing to improve their financial lives.

May we all become financially empowered in 2023 and beyond.

Until next time

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Kids & Money

Changing Conversations You Need to Have with Your Kids

Kids and Money Mindset

More often than not, kids have picked up habits and ideas about money from their parents. But it’s not all about your influence. Some kids are risk-takers when their parents aren’t at all, and some kids are good at saving while others love to spend, even if they’ve come from the same house.

Kids have their own ideas they’ve formed from other external influences, like their friends and social media. Their Instagram and TikTok feeds are going to tell you a lot about what influences them. In a world where we’re keeping up with everyone on social media, it’s worth noting that mental health is closely linked to financial health, so having sound financial well-being and spending money on the right things can really impact our kids’ well-being overall.

Our innate personalities and external influences start to guide our decisions. It’s important to know your kids’ spending and savings habits and whether they’re risk-takers or conservative when it comes to money, so you can stop unhealthy behaviours in their tracks.

Where are your kids getting their knowledge about money and wealth? What can you teach them based on what you can see is influencing them?

 

Your Child’s Money Personality

We’re all different with money, and everyone has a different money personality. How we manage money and how we like to learn about it are different, and it can make all the difference when it comes to helping to engage them in the money conversation. The better you know what their individual personality is like, the easier it will be to engage with them. Have a think about how they engage with money and whether they’ve picked up any habits or ideas.

There are many money personalities. And it is only by knowing your kids so well that you can recognise theirs.

A few common types are:

  • The hustler, who is always looking for ways to make money and improve their money situation.
  • The saver, who takes pride in being thrifty and saving their cash.
  • The spender, who loves to spend all the money they get.

How can you find out if your kid is a spender, investor, or hustler? Start paying attention to their behaviours. If they get money for their birthday or from doing chores, do they want to put it in the bank straight away or go on a shopping spree and spend it? Or do they think about putting the money into something that could reap rewards, like collecting basketball cards or starting an eBay shop?

If your child is a hustler, you can get them involved in investing from an early age. You might talk to them about different companies they like that they could invest in, and show them how they can start using their savings to invest in some of these companies. It’s important to explain the risks to them as well. You can find these apps online now; make sure you do your research and read reviews of each of these online trading platforms to see what works for you. Yes, that means you have to go and do your own research. Start by googling “popular online trading platforms.”

I’m not going to tell you which ones to use. You need to start taking a look yourself and getting familiar with it before you start this conversation.

Your kid: Nana gave me fifty dollars for my birthday, I’m getting that new game!

You: Wow, that’s lucky. What other money did you get?

Your kid: Two twenty-dollar gift cards from my friends.

You: Amazing. Happy birthday. Why not choose a game with the gift cards, and buy shares in Sony PlayStation with the fifty dollars from Nan?

Your kid: I can do that?

You: Yep, It’s an app. I can show you.

Your kid: Can I put that app on my phone so I can check it?

You: Yes, with some rules around it.

Your kid: Cool.

You: Parenting box tick ✅

If they’re a saver, this is great! But make sure they’re not scared to spend on the things they value. They might be the kind of kid who really wants something but feels guilty for spending the money. They may have picked up a lack mindset from somewhere. Get them to think about what they want, so they can put money aside for something that’s important to them.

You: Wow, you have done a lot of shifts at work. What are you going to spend your money on?

Your kid: Nothing special. I’m just saving it.

You: Great. What are you saving for?

Your kid: I don’t know.

You: Well, it’s smart to save for a rainy day. Have you got a second account?

Your kid: Why would l?

You: Well, then you could move some into long-term savings, and use the everyday account for when you want something for yourself, like a birthday present for a friend.

Your kid: Oh, that makes sense. Thanks.

You: Parenting ✅

If your child is a spender, it is important to teach them to save money, as this is the personality that is the hardest to shift once it becomes ingrained. It’s also important to help them realise that there is not an unlimited supply of money if they do choose to spend. Getting your kids conscious of tradeoffs and decisions now and later is a lifelong journey.

Your kid: I’m going to spend this ten dollars at the shops today.

You: What on? Is that all your pocket money?

Your kid: Yep.

You: Then you won’t have anything left.

Your kid: So, it’s my money.

You: If we go to the mall tomorrow, you won’t be able to get that cool poster you wanted.

Your kid: Can’t you buy it?

You: No, it’s something you wanted.

Your kid: Oh well, no poster I guess.

You: Okay. Your choice.

Your kid: Yes, it is. (now understanding limited resources)

You: Parenting ✅

Teaching kids about money and how to manage it is how you will set them up for a good life ahead.

 

Leading by Example

The Parental Commitment

As parents to three boys, Woody and I can agree that having children has been the most rewarding, exhausting, forever job you could do. And the big word there is forever.

Like our commitment to our kids, a commitment to getting our children financially independent is one of the biggest jobs we have. Because when they are capable of creating their own income and understand how to grow their own wealth, you have done your job—to give your offspring the best chance possible, not just at survival, but at being independent and flourishing in life.

Our kids are heading closer to the young adult years, and I can safely say I now know there will never be a time when I won’t be their mum, that Woody and I won’t be talking about them and worrying about them as they navigate life, no matter what age they are.

I have always believed that teaching your kids about money by talking openly to them is a legacy and gift in itself. Talking about investing and growing wealth was not part of my childhood—my parents simply didn’t think like that, or really have access to that information. But they did teach the principles of saving up, and buying a home. I’m sure many of you will have had the same upbringing. We now must unlearn what we were brought up to believe, so we can have very different conversations with our kids.

Whether you leave a financial legacy to your kids or not, the most important thing you can give them is education so they can become financially independent for life.

I have always asked questions when working with finance leaders about how they were raised, when they started investing, and what they taught their kids about money. What I’ve learned over the years from talking with hundreds of master investors is that the best way to get your kids on the road to financial freedom is to have real conversations with them about money and engage them with money as a concept from the youngest age possible.

The younger they are, the more opportunity you have to get the ball rolling with good money habits and important concepts like saving and investing.

The earlier we start the conversation with our kids, the more we set them up to have a successful financial future. And as they get older, we should keep engaging with the technology and the tools to keep them on the right track. Whether you have young kids in school, teenagers, or adult kids, it’s really never too early or too late to talk to them about money.

Have you ever really had a conversation with your kids about money? What sort of things have you told them about money, even if it’s offhand? What haven’t you told them yet? What do your kids really know and not know about money? It’s time to start having those conversations with your kids now, before it’s too late. You don’t have to do it all at once, but take the opportunities life presents to offer suggestions and a framework for their thinking.

Your kid: I’ve got a job at Domino’s. I am going to be earning cash!

You: That’s great. Well done for making it happen. Did you pick your super fund?

Your kid: What? Nah, gotta fill out the paperwork they gave me.

You: You want help?

Your kid: No.

You: Can I send you a list of super funds to read about? They will manage your investing cash through the super you get paid.

Your kid: My investing cash?

You: Yes, that’s what super is. Money invested for future you.

Your kid: Cool. What funds are there?

You: Here’s two that I think look good for people in retail work.

Your kid: They are on the list.

You: Cool. Pick what sounds more like you—check out their social.

Your kid: I will. Thanks.

You: You won’t get paid until you get that paperwork in, so do it now.

Your kid: I’m busy, but fine.

You: Parenting tick ✅


This is an extract of Chapter 3 from Vanessa’s new book. You can order it here 

https://vanessastoykov.com.au/books/the-five-conversations-about-money-that-will-radically-change-your-life/

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Financial Freedom

Financial Wellbeing Programs

Feeling unsettled about your finances right now?

You’re not alone.

Financial stress amongst Australians has almost doubled over the last two years

Just as we thought we were emerging from Covid we were hit by skyrocketing cost of living, rising interest rates, reduced property prices and a world that feels challenging and unpredictable.

AMP’s latest financial wellness report has some sobering takeaways about how financial stress is affecting financial wellness, psychological and employee wellbeing and impacting employee performance.

  • 953k employees are severely financially distressed*
  • 2.01m employees are moderately financially distressed*
  • 21% of employees are distracted at work due to financial stress. This has almost doubled in two years.

Finding ways to mitigate this impact on employees’ wellbeing is crucial, and business critical

with financial stress affecting employee productivity at a cost to the Australian economy of over $66.8 billion a year – sharply rising at double the result in 2020*

The good news is that statistics show that financial wellness programs can make a big difference.

  • 80% of employees reported improved mental health after participating in a financial wellness program*
  • 82% of employees reported an improvement in performance*
  • Storytelling increases information retention to over 65%*

According to AMP’s wellness report, “financial education and financial products and services that are easily accessible, tailored and engaging can help Australians out of their ‘hot-state’ mentality and give them the skills, attitudes and services they need to ease the pressure.”

That’s exactly what we do at evolution media group, so we are delighted to have launched our Financial Wellbeing Programs; facilitated by our CEO, money expert Vanessa Stoykov.

If you are thinking of exploring financial wellbeing for your organisation contact us at enquiries@evolutionmedia.com.au

Sources
* AMP’s 2022 Financial Wellness Report
* AMP’s 2022 Financial Wellness Report
* AMP’s 2022 Financial Wellness Report
* CBA’s Improving the Financial Wellbeing of Australians, 2019
* AMP’s 2022 Financial Wellness Report
* SmartDollar
* Xerox
* The London School of Business